After four days of fighting with the website I wanted to get up, which I will grant was extremely complicated... I finally gave up.  Okay... It's done... I can't make it behave enough to do what I want to do.  And to say I was angry was putting it mildly.

So, I was recovering from backup (for the 2nd time, and having lost about 2 weeks worth of work, thankfully I didn't do much in that two weeks)... and the brainstorm hit to try the things I wanted to do on a different website.

And damn if it didn't work just fine.  (Update: found a major bug, but it's reproducable and minor compared to other problems I was having. I have note into the developer)

So, four days worth of angst and pain and agony and fighting... all because there's something wrong with the set-up on the first computer.

I really, Really, REALLY HATE computers.